...Si se pide respeto intelectual, primero hay que darlo. O por lo menos ser tan adorable como la sita Daroti.

1. Los beneficios de método científico no tuvieron lugar hasta la segunda mitad del siglo XVIII, con la Primera Revolución Industrial.
2. Ha habido mucha gente feliz antes del siglo XVIII.
3. Ergo, no es necesario el método científico para alcanzar la felicidad.

A mi eso me parece muy respetable. Pero el respeto no se pide: se gana. A menos que, y en eso estoy de acuerdo con usté, sea la sita Daroti o la sita Kastur (con todo respeto, ya que soy un recién llegado).


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Y vd. cree que se lo ha ganado?

A ciencia cierta no, que es pecado e innoble, prefiero decir que lo sabrá cuando comprenda que el respeto es simplemente nada más que un adjunto a priori de éticas non-naturalisticas

No lo crea, a ciencia cierta con fines nobles y no espurios , el respeto y más aún la cortesía, son cosas mucho más complejas y valiosas de lo que aparentan.

Discrepo. Mantengo vía el imperativo categórico que ontologícamente el respeto y más aún la cortesía sólo existe en la imaginación

(...) (Tibetano), cuya nación ha limitado sus actividades militares durante dieciséis siglos a defenderse de los imperios indios, chinos y mongoles; hasta que cayeron en 1951 a manos del industrialismo depredador de Don Mao. (...)

Sonam Gyatso publicly announced that he was a reincarnation of the Tibetan Sakya monk Drogön Chögyal Phagpa (1235–1280) who converted Kublai Khan, while Altan Khan was a reincarnation of Kublai Khan (1215–1294), the famous ruler of the Mongols and Emperor of China, and that they had come together again to cooperate in propagating the Buddhist religion.[45] While this did not immediately lead to a massive conversion of Mongols to Buddhism (this would only happen in the 1630s), it did lead to the widespread use of Buddhist ideology for the legitimation of power among the Mongol nobility
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The fifth Dalai Lama is known for unifying the Tibetan heartland under the control of the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism, after defeating the rival Kagyu and Jonang sects and the secular ruler, the Tsangpa prince, in a prolonged civil war. His efforts were successful in part because of aid from Güshi Khan, the Oirat leader of the Khoshut Khanate. The Jonang monasteries were either closed or forcibly converted, and that school remained in hiding until the latter part of the 20th century.
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The fifth Dalai lama initiated the construction of the Potala Palace in Lhasa, and moved the centre of government there from Drepung.
The Potala Palace in Lhasa

The death of the fifth Dalai Lama in 1682 was kept hidden for fifteen years by his assistant, confidant, Desi Sangye Gyatso (De-srid Sangs-rgyas Rgya-'mtsho). The Dalai Lamas remained Tibet's titular heads of state until 1959.

During the rule of the Great Fifth, two Jesuit missionaries, the German Johannes Gruber and Belgian Albert Dorville, stayed in Lhasa for two months, October and November, 1661 on their way from Peking to Portuguese Goa, in India.[48] They described the Dalai Lama as a "powerful and compassionate leader" and "a devilish God-the-father who puts to death such as refuse to adore him." Another Jesuit, Ippolito Desideri, stayed five years in Lhasa (1716–1721) and was the first missionary to master the language. He even produced a few Christian books in Tibetan. Capuchin fathers took over the mission until all missionaries were expelled in 1745.

In spite of the weakening of central authority, the neighbouring Ming Dynasty of China made no efforts to impose direct rule, although it kept friendly relations with some of the lamas.[43] Tibet would be independent from the mid-14th century on, for nearly 400 years.

In the late 17th century, Tibet entered into a dispute with Bhutan, which was supported by Ladakh. This resulted in an invasion of Ladakh by Tibet. Kashmir helped to restore Ladakhi rule, on the condition that a mosque be built in Leh and that the Ladakhi king convert to Islam. The Treaty of Temisgam in 1684 settled the dispute between Tibet and Ladakh, but its independence was severely restricted.

During this era (XVIII century), the region was dominated by the Dalai Lamas with the support from the Manchu Qing dynasty. The Manchu rule over Tibet was established after a Qing army defeated the Dzungars who occupied Tibet in 1720, and lasted until the fall of the Qing dynasty in 1912. The Qing emperors appointed imperial residents known as the Ambans to Tibet, who commanded over 2,000 troops stationed in Lhasa and reported to the Lifan Yuan, a Qing government agency that oversaw the region during this period.

Hoyga, que yo practico el sano arte del insulto a modo personal. Le puedo decir a usted que es gilipollas o que el Dalai Lama es un pringao.
Pero nunca se me ocurriria insultar al budismo y a todos sus seguidores en plan, "pos hay que ser gilitonto pa creer en esas pamplinas"
Cada uno cree lo que le sale las meningas y son ustedes los que han empezado con la gresca de que si la ciencia es tal o cual y todos los que saben sumar son unos believers.
Subnormalidades las justas, porfa bor.